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When I was a child I laughed at my Great-Grandmother’s claim of having Amerindian roots. I thought she was old, feeble, and ignorant because at school I was taught we were from “Africa.” My logic was that she was from the Slave Era and they were an uneducated people. I got in a lot of trouble for it but I never would listen. Many, many years later she has since passed and I will never have the opportunity to apologize for my disrespect when she would say stuff like that.

This is why I say We Remember. It is the memory of them, the memory of their traditions, the memory of their words, the memory of the lives they lived, the people they knew and loved, the memories of what the would do, the music, the laughter, their struggles, their pain, and their trauma. It is to remember their stories. Memory they have passed down from generation to generation in what they would do. The memory in their dances, the memory in their songs. Even the trauma that is in their words when we remember them and read them. It is all memory.

We are to honor their memory by evolving the culture they left. By advancing ourselves as a collective. We are the hope and dreams of our ancestors and what they fought for. They wanted us to forget this history. They tell us blatantly nowadays. Our people were reacting to a colonial structure they had be subjected to for centuries.

We are their living memory and we continue their stories. They wanted to erase us in order to obfuscate their crimes and hypocrisies.

It is unwise and intellectually dishonest to deny African progenitors just as it is unwise to deny Amerindian progenitors or Moorish-European progenitors. For different people, these lineages exist in different proportions.

For some these range in different degrees.

From the 16th through the 19th centuries, European empires ran multiple, overlapping coerced-labor systems that did not move in a single Africa to Americas direction.

Hell even South East Asians are within the mix due to the pacific slave trade. In the Indian Ocean and Pacific worlds, indigenous populations from Southeast Asia (Maluku, Timor, Sulawesi, Java, the Philippines, parts of coastal mainland Southeast Asia, and even Pacific Islanders) were captured, sold, or transported as slaves, debt-bonded laborers, convicts, or “indentured” workers under Dutch, Portuguese, Spanish, and later British systems.

Many of these people were phenotypically dark, classified with the same collapsing terms Europeans used elsewhere (Negro, Cafre, Moor, Black, Coolie depending on empire and moment), and were moved across oceans, not just regions.

I say all this to emphasize that dismissing one for the other overlooks the broader reality of the situation. People are overlooking a paper genocide in favor of a single, romanticized origin myth centered around African origins due to phenotypical conflation.

It was much more complicated than that.

Black Americans are not simply an African diaspora population in the United States. The need to center Africa in the Black American origin story was the result of deliberate political, intellectual, and social movements in the 19th and 20th centuries that sought to rebuild identity, foster unity, and resist white supremacy globally but it was at the expense of historical complexity. One that was necessary for that time but comes from a place of distortion and that is inadequate for historical truth today.

We can honor the strategic unity it provided while correcting the record to acknowledge Indigenous, Southeast Asian, Moorish, and other erased ancestors in the mosaic.

The true origin story is not “either/or” it is “and,”

And in that “and” lies a deeper, more resilient understanding of Black American identity: not as a branch of Africa, but as a new people born from a worlds being shattered and remade by colonial structures and their empire. Just like how mosaics are formed

In the 1900s the U.S. Civil Rights/Black Power movements and the African independence movements aligned due to a shared interest in decolonization.

“African roots” became a unifying political banner against white supremacy because claiming a proud, singular African origin was a direct rejection of racist dehumanization that said Black people had no history, no culture, no lineage worth honoring. A clear “African diaspora” story made demands for reparations, cultural recognition, and political representation easier to frame within domestic U.S. politics and emerging international human rights norms.

It was romanticized and propagated globally but indirectly validated the colonial reclassification system. People were psychologically looking for a home

It was a reaction that needed a voice (Black America. It’s the only reason Garveyism worked in America and no where else until after his passing.

The academic framing of the Slavery‑as‑African‑Only model collapses when contextualized. Early historiography focused on plantation records from the 19th century, when the enslaved population was already legally “Black” and largely descended from Africans.

It is a racist lie that frames Africans as conquered, servants, and slaves whenever they appear in places they aren’t suppose to appear in their colonial fantasy of “White Superiority”

Earlier periods of massive Indigenous enslavement were overlooked. Trans‑Atlantic Slave Trade Database (published later) solidified the quantitative focus on African numbers, while Indian slavery records were scattered, local, and less systematically compiled. Anthropology & linguistics in the early‑mid 1900s often sought “African survivals,” reinforcing the idea of a direct cultural transplant rather than American creolization.

After generations of cultural erasure under slavery and Jim Crow, Black Americans sought a pre‑slavery homeland. Africa became that symbolic motherland.

The Black Arts Movement, Kente cloth, Afrocentric naming, and Juneteenth rituals all drew on African symbolism to foster pride and continuity in the face of racist fragmentation.

This was psychologically necessary as it provided a narrative of belonging and beauty that countered the narrative of bondage and brokenness. Political correct culture further reinforced this narrative by conflating “Black” “Negro” and “African” to mean one thing.

While government classification (Census, federal programs) adopted this logic, reinforcing the idea that Blackness = African ancestry.

“Native” American tribes, often seeking to protect sovereignty and limited resources, frequently disavowed darker skinned (black) members , leaving “African” as the only “official” origin many Black Americans could claim.

Africa being the sole origin of who we are now functions as an origin myth and the arbitrary connections people draw function as anchors when in fact they are symptoms of how effective Colonial Administrators were in designing these policies. They indirectly perpetuate a racial hierarchy built on White Superiority narratives.

The truth is simple

We are a distinct creole people formed on American soil through the systematic convergence of multiple global populations under colonial racial capitalism, legal reclassification, and forced labor.

People are fluid and mix and move all the time. Cultures evolve in time. Limiting us in any capacity to any romantic or ideological origin is wrong. We are a new people.

We are not Africans or apart of an African diaspora. Some of our progenitors were apart of that history just as Amerindians and Moorish Europeans were as well all in varying capacities.

These labels meant nothing to them as they knew what was most important. These were trivialities that didn’t mean much because all they had was each other. We now have a different focus.

We are simply “Americans” in every shape and sense of the word.

Black Americans are North Americans. They are a creole group within the USA.

We are a mosaic within a mosaic.

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Black Americans are North Americans, not Africans. Black Americans are a
creolized ethnic group in North America. Our ethnogenesis happened here, on this soil, through centuries of cultural formation through different societies cultures and policies. I don’t know why this is so hard for people to accept.


We were not transplanted Africans maintaining an external homeland nor are we
apart an African diaspora. A portion of our ancestors did come from Africa and
were part of the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade diaspora (a triangular trade that
involved the enslavement of many ethnic groups existing outside of Africa) but the
actual numbers and proportions remain debated. (TAST Database places this as :
388K to 400k trafficked directly to NA which was 2 to 4% of the 12.5 estimate for
the TAST in general without scrutiny abd in the high estimate) We became a new ethnic group with our own language (Black American English), music, foodways, religious expressions, and social codes, all amalgamated within North America.


This romantic view of Africa being home and the motherland is an origin myth
propagated by ideologues and race theorist seeking to reclassify BAs in order to
get rid of the BA population through colonial settlements. To call us “African” is to skip over the process that made us who we are. Some of us may have ancestral links to Africa, just as Irish Americans have to Ireland but culturally, linguistically, politically, and historically, socially, we are a
North American people group.

This is not anti black as black isn’t synonymous with African and it’s uniquely a
Black American sociocultural sociopolitical ethnonational identifier. It’s not Afrophobic either as Africa is a geographical location and the people groups that inhabitant it are diverse culturally ethnically socially politically nationally etc and flattening those unique groups into a singular label that was
invented and propagated as a colonial instrument of classification is simply Racist
African is a sociopolitical and geopolitical delineation device invented by Colonial
societies.

The scramble for Africa ?


If we take bananas from Africa Grow them in America. Are the bananas American or African? Does geography determine composition ? Do people adapt to environments and form cultures around it?
What if the bananas are grown in a garden that mixes bananas from Europe, From
Africa, and From America? Will the new bananas be African bananas?


I no African I’m North American.


Break the Spell Soulaan.


The idea of Continents and Geography (political geography man made fiction)
defending composition is a remnant of Racism.


The belief that people belong to continents is not scientific AT ALL. It’s a colonial
taxonomy built to justify racial taxonomic systems!


Europeans in the 17th–19th centuries divided the world by continent, color, and
capacity and created Allegories around these groups (Allegories of the Four
Continents)


They believed


Europe = “Civilized”
Africa = “Primitive”
Asia = “Exotic/Other”
America = “New World / Mixed”


This geographic essentialism made land a proxy for developments in Race Theory.
It’s foundational to its development in fact. For centuries these developments
occurred under the belief that climate and environment affected one’s biological
characteristics through adaptations splintering humans into “races” when the fact
of early human ancestors adapting to their environments after tens thousands of
years is doesn’t lock them to geographical locations. This has been debunked for
so long.


Environment influences culture

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Wabba / Wabbaism

Wabbaism (n.)

Origin:

Coined within r/BlackAmerica discourse.

Definition:

Wabbaism is the ideological, aesthetic, and behavioral emulation of Black American life, culture, struggle, and philosophy by non–Black Americans, absent lineage, historical grounding, or communal accountability.

A Wabba is not simply someone who enjoys Black American culture, but someone who wants to inhabit it, perform it, or extract identity from it and are often treating Black American culture as a costume, aesthetic, or moral credential rather than a lived, inherited reality.

Conceptual Framework

Wabbaism functions in the same way weebism does with Japan:

Weebs obsess over Japan and Japanese culture

Wabbas obsess over Black America and Black Americans

The distinction is not interest, but emulation without belonging while treating the people competition rather than a bounded peoplehood

You never see people who are South Korean or Chinese saying they make better anime than Japanese.

You never hear Australians saying they make better Tacos than Mexicans.

They have crossed from appreciation and appropriation to pure Wabbaism with a desire to compete and replace a people within a culture.

Since “Tether” is deemed a slur across platforms despite its specific usage and their constant usage of actual slurs, wabba is not attached to any status or phenotypical conflation (another phrase we coined)

It is strictly behavioral

Wabbaism is the emulation of Black American identity, culture, and worldview by non–Black Americans as a lifestyle or philosophy, without lineage or historical grounding. It crosses interest an appreciation and goes into extraction and replacement. It is getting lost in character.

WABBA

(Wa)nna-(B)e (B)lack (A)merican

Black Americanism: When practiced by others, Black American culture functions as an aesthetic philosophy and performative identity a style, worldview, and symbolic language that can be emulated or consumed, but not fully inhabited as a lived, lineage-based peoplehood.

The “cultural fungibility of Black American identity” describes how Black American
culture and identity are treated as interchangeable, transferable, and consumable
by outsiders as though they were commodities rather than rooted, lived
experiences.


We’ve all heard it at some point. “Black Americans have no culture.” Probably by
someone imitating Black Culture. Why has Black American Culture been
universalized? I need you all to understand. There’s groups of people right now
that are heavily influenced by Black American Culture (ie Black Culture) yet they
have ZERO contact with Black Americans. Their experience of Black culture is
through a very narrow lens exported by media. I call this identification Neo-
Blackness (social media driven Black identity where the commodification and
performative blackness is adopted) our cultural is practiced without the context
and the crazy part is it’s being infused to express their cultural identity.


Do you understand this? We are a blueprint yes, but they are building their identity
on top of this while infusing it with their cultural tokens. Completely detaching it
from its context and reshaping it to fit into their cultural frameworks. BAs have a
huge culture of F U. Cultures evolve and change all the time. It is not static. They morph combine
delineate etc


They imitate what we do but what’s not talked about is how they replicate our
cultural tokens in the form of trends. We change up constantly. We constantly
evolve our culture and you might not understand how unusual this is on a global
scale for an ethnicity to do so.


A lot might think this isn’t important at all but don’t miss the plot.


Fungible means something that can be exchanged or substituted with something
else of the same type (like money). Applied to culture, it means treating Black
American identity as if it can be borrowed, swapped, or imitated without cost,
consequence, or authenticity.


Dewey’s Dilemma is an example of this global redefinition of Black Identity due to
its massive influence. This creates a paradox. Black Americans face systemic
oppression, while their culture is simultaneously celebrated, copied, and profited
from.


How can we have their rhythm without their blues?


Our cultural products are detached from the conditions that birthed them.


Blackness is consumed as an aesthetic and adopted as a trend.


When CAD and WIAC populations infuse BA culture into their own, it mutates into a
hybrid identity a double consciousness. Over time, these hybrid forms can be re-
presented as if they were never uniquely BA to begin with which is feeding back
into the myth that “Black Americans have no culture.” This creates a version of
performative Blackness where global communities adopt BA identity tokens but
filter them through their own lineage diluting the source.


Take a good look around


Black Americans have consistently created new cultural forms. American media
exports Black culture as the “cool” aesthetic. Across the globe, people consume
Black American culture as a way to project “realness,” defiance, or modernity.


Black American Cultural (BLACK CULTURE) tokens literally are adopted by non BA
groups and in the end when those generations came to age it will be generalized
as their cultural tokens. “We have always done this”


Saying Black Americans have no culture is a way to undermine our identity as an
ethnicity in order for non BA groups to enjoy the fruits


You are being actively erased under phenotypical conflation and divestment
strategies.It has always been the colonial strategy to erase Black American
identity. Genocide by absorption and reclassification. Paper genocide.


The cultural fungibility of Black American identity enables the world to consume
our creativity while denying our existence, reclassifying us out of our own lineage
through appropriation and erasure under the guise of celebration and context
shifting.


Blackness is real estate whose equity was built through the blood of a people that
other’s mock. We invested and created this concept. Sociopolitical, Sociocultural,
Ethnonational. We don’t have to share space. Nobody can redefine who and what
we are to suit their paradigms


One of the greasiest tricks modern society has gotten away with is changing
the definition of Racism and divorcing it from its historic context. They
whitewashed it.


I said what I said


Racism is an ideology. A worldview. A paradigm that is tied to uniquely to European
thought. They have tried to make racism out to be something that humans just do
when the very idea and development of “race” developed in Europe. It comes from the idea that animals can be organized into taxonomic systems based on attributes. “Race” referred to animals especially horses and dogs. It denoted a bloodline, pedigree, and or a breeding stock. It wasn’t until the 15th–16th centuries that the word was applied to human groups, and even then it meant
family lineage. This would go on to mean stock or nation and then later evolved
into phenotype based classifications. Oddly humans were being conceptually
aligned with livestock.


One might have said in those days that I come from the noble race (lineage or
bloodline) of the Julia family. This concept was interlinked with Horse Breeding especially and what’s a little golden nugget is elite horse breeding manuals and noble bloodline records were
often read by the same people who pioneered early “racial science.” The idea of
“the human race” as a competition carries the same echoes of horse racing.
Divorcing Racism as a philosophy, a science, an art, a religious belief, a worldview,
a paradigm, etc and conflating it with “hate” or “prejudice”


Racism was in practice the fundamental idea that the “White” Race was superior
or “human” (evolved or more advanced) to the other “races” especially the
“Negro” races who was not seen as a Human. They also weren’t seen as an animal
but as a being in between animal and human (ie Sub-Human)


Their argument is that White “races” were the next iteration of “man.”
The act of dehumanization in the form of hierarchal classification models is
Racism: Seeing a group as fundamentally sub-Human. In order for racism to exist you need Race Theory.

A racist is a believer or practitioners of race theory and to a degree we all practice race theory just under a different guise as the system has been rebranded. Racism is simply the ideology that the White Races is more evolved in comparison to the subhuman “Negro” races. The core of the ideology was never hate as they would’ve had you believe, but a belief in the evolutionary superiority of one group.
It’s a lie, a myth, a delusion based on an organized belief system that positioned White Europeans as the apex of human development.


This is what they believe and what they still believe.

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Differences are good. Many different communities coming to together in a society each with different pros and cons

People are afraid of different cultures but the truth is many different people coming together can be a net benefit as they each offer a different solution to the societies problem when they mix. How did this culture solve this problem and develop in this way can give the answer to another’s culture problem.

Now the problem comes when these cultures attempt to absorb others and feel that they are superior or don’t have any cons. They insulate themselves and become isolated and in a state of stagnation which eventually becomes weakness.

They refuse change at all cost because they feel their traditions will be lost. Cultures are meant to evolves culture is the ancestral memory and response to environment. When cultures become fossilized and no longer adapt or respond to their environment, they eventually die.

Cultural exchange is only healthy when it is not coercive. Power and institutions play a huge part in this as well as some cultural exchanges are imposed through force. Institutions provide cultures with continuity mechanisms. Conservatives want to maintain and preserve societal identity. Not all cultural contact is an “exchange” and it’s important to say that not all change is growth. Some cultural differences enrich society while others generate tension that has to be negotiated diplomatically.

People are afraid when these institutional cores morph into values that are expressed through the societies. Cores give a culture long lasting principles that are evolved and refined over time. It’s the identity of the culture beyond the cosmetic appearance.

My analogy about a group of people living in a desert and moving into a jungle is good here. Their habits were created as a response to that environment but when they go into the jungle with the habits learned from the desert and try to live as if they were still in there. What happens is their traditions and customs etc from the jungle that they developed, the cores, evolve to meet the new environment and transforms. But what if they try to remain the exact same instead of adapt? Even wear the same clothes?

“You can take the nigga out the hood, but cannot take the hood out the nigga”

Rings a bell?

Values are formed as byproducts of the cultures.

This is Tippu Tip (also written Tippoo Tib or Tippu Tib)

Tippu Tip

He was one of the most powerful slave and ivory merchants in nineteenth-century East and Central Africa. His birth name was Hamed bin Mohammed el Murjebi. He was born around 1837, usually associated with Zanzibar’s Swahili-Arab merchant world, and rose to prominence through the caravan economy that linked the East African coast to the deep interior.

He was not simply a trader in the narrow sense. He was a political broker, warlord, caravan master, plantation owner, and regional power. He organized large armed expeditions into the interior, especially into areas of present-day Democratic Republic of the Congo, where caravans collected ivory and captives through trade, coercion, alliance, and outright violence. His network depended on porters, armed retainers, local intermediaries, and commercial agreements with chiefs and rulers, but also on raids, warfare, and the destruction of communities. In practice, the ivory trade and the slave trade were intertwined. Captives could be sold, used as labor, or used to sustain caravan operations.

His importance comes from scale. He was not a marginal operator. He became one of the best-known men in the region and controlled enormous commercial routes stretching from the East African coast into Central Africa. European explorers encountered him because he was already a major force before colonial rule was fully imposed. Men like Henry Morton Stanley dealt with him because they had to. He was that influential.

Tippu Tip also exposes the complexity of African slave systems in the nineteenth century. He operated in the Indian Ocean and inland Central African trade worlds, not the classic Atlantic plantation system. That makes him important for correcting shallow narratives. Slavery in Africa was not only something done from outside by Europeans on the Atlantic coast. There were also inland and eastern systems involving Swahili-Arab commercial elites, African rulers, local militias, and long-distance caravan networks tied to Zanzibar, the Arabian Peninsula, and broader Indian Ocean markets.

At one point, the Congo Free State under Leopold II even tried to use him administratively, appointing him as a governor-like figure over Stanley Falls in the late 1880s. That alone shows how powerful he was. European imperial powers did not initially destroy men like him because of morality. They often negotiated with them when useful, then displaced them once colonial control hardened.

His legacy is dark and controversial. Some older accounts romanticized him as a grand adventurer or merchant prince. That softens what he actually represented. In substance, he became rich through systems of captivity, forced labor, militarized trade, and human sale. He symbolizes the fusion of commerce, violence, and political ambition in East and Central Africa just before full colonial takeover.

who’s feeding Alt-Right propaganda machines esp toward narratives of white people experiencing racism.

I think this behavior is beneath us. This is just feeding their propaganda machine for clicks out of some childish “they used to do it to us” logic. Druski and Forever Band are supply their army with ammunition. Why supply your enemy with bullets and weapons? That validate their corrupted talking points?

I keep seeing this growing trend of white face or doing what whit people do to Black people.

The modern attention economy has trained people to confuse reaction with effectiveness. If the opponent gets mad, they assume the act must have been useful. If a joke goes viral, they assume it must have landed politically. But outrage is not inherently subversive. In many cases it is profitable to the very people supposedly being targeted. It gives them a cleaner enemy image, a stronger grievance narrative, and fresh content to circulate through their own propaganda circuits. What feels like defiance in the moment can function as reinforcement once it leaves the creator’s hands and enters a larger hostile media environment.

That is why the line “You’re playing into their game like an idiot” is more serious than it first appears. It identifies a structural problem. The issue is not simply bad taste. The issue is participation in an opposition script without realizing it. Once politics becomes spectacle, people begin acting for the performance rather than the outcome. They aim for laughs, shock, and catharsis, while ignoring how those same gestures can be clipped, reframed, and weaponized by people who already possess stronger media discipline. This is what makes the criticism of Druski more than personal irritation. “It’s feeding their bullshit and energizes them to pseudo feelings. Druski is a fucking idiot” is crude language, but the underlying point is precise: the content does not merely exist as a joke. It circulates as political material.

What is being defended in these comments is the need for discipline over impulse. There is a difference between expression and strategy. There is a difference between making noise and advancing a position. The problem with so much contemporary cultural commentary is that it prizes emotional satisfaction over consequence. People want the feeling of retaliation without asking what their actions actually produce. They want symbolic release, not strategic clarity. But if the result is stronger opposition messaging, wider enemy reach, and more polished grievance theater, then the act has failed regardless of how satisfying it felt in the moment.

The deeper insight here is that humiliation politics often flatters the person performing it more than it harms the person targeted. It creates the illusion of boldness while masking the reality of self-sabotage. In that sense, the remarks compiled here are not anti-humor. They are anti-naivety. They are arguing that once a population is locked in an information war, it cannot afford to keep mistaking spectacle for power. Some content does not weaken the opposition. It supplies them.

Performative jargon is language that sounds intelligent, moral, or politically aware, but is mostly being used to signal identity, sophistication, or virtue rather than to clarify reality.

What it really is is verbal theater. It often hides weak thinking behind trendy terms, inflated phrasing, and abstract moral posturing. Instead of explaining a point plainly, it creates the impression of depth. The goal is often social positioning, not precision.

In practice, performative jargon usually does three things: it avoids directness, protects bad arguments from scrutiny, and lets people sound “correct” without saying much of substance. It turns language into costume.

A simple test is this: if you strip away the fashionable wording and almost nothing remains, it was probably performative jargon. To be honest, im absolutely sick of it atp

There’s so much talk in our community when it comes to Colorism where BM are seen as perpetuators of colorism and BW are innocent bystanders being affected by it.

Two people standing in the rain will get wet. That is how internalized racism, colorism, and related pathologies work. People often talk as if these forces only damage the person directly targeted, but the poison spreads across the whole environment. The one demeaned is harmed by degradation, while the one doing the degrading is also warped by the values, fears, and false hierarchies they carry. This doesn’t magically shift because of gender. People were both conditioned to believe in it. When a community stands under the same storm, nobody stays dry. The damage may land differently, but it never stays on just one side.

People keep trying to rewrite a shared social pathology into a one-sided moral drama, as though only one group absorbed it, reproduced it, or enforced it. But when an entire community is raised under the same storm of racism, everybody is touched by it. 

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because you are wrong and don’t understand Black Culturr. American culture is Black American culture. “Culture” comes from Latin cultura, meaning cultivation. You will know Black American culture by the fruits she has produced. You’re primary talking about social infrastructure and not the more visible forms of culture. Culture to you is a living system of values that can be navigated and felt through a network of trust of respecting the social contract (obligation) of that culture which is why you link it to promise. That’s true because real culture promises something and offers orientation it’s what fuels tourism. I can go to Japan and experience the culture. People now believe culture is cosmetic.

Black Americans culture has so much output, thing is much of the institutional and geographic expression of that culture has been disrupted, attacked, dissolved, commodified, or made unstable. Now the thing is just because people “break” that social contract doesn’t mean the culture isn’t there. We are a people whose culture has often been mined for output while our communities have been denied stability or have experience disruption. The foundation exists. The problem is that the promise has been repeatedly interrupted. You don’t judge a culture by the people who break the social contract. You generalize a narrow example and treat it as a universal standard and then commit non sequitur. Weak social or community infrastructure doesn’t equal cultural absence. Multiple interruptions esp post Segregation. Your argument that BAs lack culture is just basically a No True Scotsman on rhetoric and design. You create a purity test or litmus test for what a culture is and then unless a group can offer this ideal community promise in a very visible way, you don’t count it as having “real” culture. You narrow the category until groups you disagree with can be excluded. Black American communities have output so much that is simply American culture but BAs are segregated from this. It’s a tree planted in our yard where the fruit of this tree falls into another and a fence divides the two. After decades, the other neighbor decide to remove the fruit after decades of collecting and selling it. Tell that to the Black Americans of Rosewood and Tulsa or of Harlem. Tell that to the people of the Deep South. In Mississippi, of the Delta and New Orleans. The list goes on and on but absence of evidence to you. If you’re not looking for something you’re not going to see it. I see the community, I see hear about what changed and how it got disrupted. You wouldn’t know because you got here after the fact. Major disruptions to Black America happened all throughout the 60s (COINTELPRO), 70s (dismantling Black Power organizations and War on Drugs), 80s (Reagan) 90 (Clinton and the PIC) and Y2K.

The Government practiced a containment strategy while disrupting the social fabric of the community. People will say well you can go to a black community and leave a pile of crack, guns, liquor etc and nobody will tell the people to use it. They would take the crack and sell it to each other, then take the guns and use it to kill each and other while drunk off the liquor.

The social fabric was destroyed as people became opportunistic. The government didn’t force people to do anything. They increased the likelihood and they created the pipelines, but they didn’t force people to participate in their own self destruction. Nobody has to tell a desperate, isolated, economically cornered population to consume what has been strategically made abundant, lucrative, and culturally reinforced. The question is not whether each individual retained agency. They did. The question is who shaped the field of choices, who benefited from the collapse, and why Black neighborhoods were treated as zones to be managed, criminalized, and contained rather than protected and developed. Freeway Rick Ross and the entire music industry was built in the same environment. Music industry convinced impressionable Black Americans to glorify this via modern minstrel clowns.

Black America has her problems but to reduce culture to just pathologies is erroneous. There’s internal factors that’s ignored and there’s external factors that’s over represented as the sole causes. I see it as a continuous occupation.

Zanu is perceptive but his conclusions are off. He can see the issue but lack the knowledge to interpret what he’s witnessing. I can see how he came to these conclusions as he is outside looking in and sees dysfunction. He is reacting to the Atlantic and comparing and contrasting with other cultures/people groups he’s encountered.

I challenge Zanu to learn more about the culture. To get more in depth to broaden his understanding.

The first oddity is representational. Ghana is a modern postcolonial state. It is not identical to all the distinct peoples who lived in the region before British rule, and it is certainly not identical to all descendant communities in the Americas. So when Ghana speaks as though it can centrally lead a reparations movement, it is speaking as a state, not as the total injured people across the Atlantic world.

The second oddity is historical entanglement. The territory now called Ghana, especially the old Gold Coast, was deeply tied to Atlantic slave trading networks. That does not mean every population there was equally involved, but it does mean the region was not simply an innocent victim standing outside the system. There were local rulers, brokers, merchants, and political formations that captured, sold, taxed, or facilitated the movement of captives. So Ghana trying to act as moral spokesperson for the descendants of the enslaved can look strange because parts of the predecessor political world were also intermediaries in the trade. That complicates any clean victim posture.

The third oddity is legal posture. If Ghana is pressing something like reparations, who exactly is the claimant. Is it Ghana the state. Is it specific lineal descendants in the Americas. Is it communities still living in Ghana. Those are not interchangeable claimants. A modern government can lobby, host conferences, and build symbolic unity, but that does not mean it has the strongest claim to receive or distribute compensation.

The fourth oddity is beneficiary confusion. Suppose Britain or another European state actually agreed to some form of payment. Why should that money go through Ghanaian state channels if the injury being invoked is largely tied to descendant populations elsewhere, especially in the Caribbean, the United States, Brazil, and Latin America. Once a state inserts itself as the receiver, the people’s claim can get converted into diplomacy, development money, heritage tourism, or elite-managed programming.

The fifth oddity is rhetorical asymmetry. Ghana often frames itself as a homeland or symbolic center for the imaginary “Black” diaspora, especially through cultural diplomacy like the “Year of Return.” Politically that is useful. But symbol is not standing. Hospitality is not legal inheritance. Cultural affinity does not automatically create a superior reparations claim.

So the problem is not that Ghana cannot speak on the issue at all. The problem is that Ghana’s role is strongest as an advocate, convener, or symbolic partner, not as the obvious lead claimant on behalf of all descendants of Atlantic slavery.

That is the contradiction. Ghana is trying to occupy the moral center of a historical crime in which predecessor powers from that same region were also participants, while also speaking for descendant populations it does not govern and cannot fully represent. That makes its leadership posture look politically useful, but historically and legally unstable.

It becomes even stranger when you ask why Ghana’s president did not begin with Brazil or Haiti. If this was truly about the descendants most directly shaped by Atlantic slavery, Brazil should have been central from the start given the scale of its captive imports, and Haiti should have been unavoidable given its history as the site of the most famous successful slave revolt in the hemisphere. Starting elsewhere makes the gesture look less like principled historical grounding and more like political theater aimed at controlling the narrative.

It also raises a deeper contradiction. If they are claiming to speak for Africa, why is there so little urgency around the slave trades that existed outside the Atlantic frame, especially the trans-Saharan systems that lasted longer and whose legacy continued in different forms well beyond the Atlantic era. Why is there silence around the present-day forms of bondage and trafficking that still persist on the continent and in surrounding regions. A people serious about moral authority would not selectively invoke slavery only where it can be turned into diplomatic capital. They would address the full record, including the uncomfortable parts that implicate African polities, Arabized trading systems, and contemporary African governments.

That selectivity is revealing. It suggests this is not really about historical precision or justice for a distinct injured people. It is about claiming symbolic custody over Black suffering while avoiding the harder questions of continuity, responsibility, and representation. They want the prestige of speaking for the victims without first accounting for the intermediaries, the sellers, the rival systems of slavery, or the modern failures to confront ongoing human exploitation.

In that sense, the issue is bigger than one speech or one visit. It is about appropriation of grievance. They are treating reparations as though it is an inheritance they can administer by default simply because they sit atop modern African states. But reparations do not belong to governments by atmosphere. They belong to injured people and their descendants. Once states with weak standing position themselves as gatekeepers, the claim gets absorbed into performance, diplomacy, and soft power.

They think they own “us” and they have co-opted reparations.

Reparations are usually framed as redress for an injured people, class, or community. They are tied to harm, inheritance of harm, unlawful dispossession, forced labor, exclusion, or state-sanctioned injury suffered by actual populations. In that sense, reparations are not just “money to a country.” They are a claim rooted in a harmed group.

Indemnity is different. Indemnity is generally a state-to-state or treaty-based compensation concept. It is about one political entity compensating another for loss, damage, war costs, seizure, breach, or imposed liability. That is a public or sovereign claim, not necessarily a moral-historical claim on behalf of a distinct people.

So when modern states speak as though they are owed “reparations” for the slave trade simply because they now occupy territory once connected to that history, the logic can get very weak very fast. A present-day state is not automatically the injured party just because events happened in or through that region. You have to ask: who was harmed, who benefited, who continued, and who inherits the claim?

Many postcolonial states did not exist in their current legal form when the harms occurred. Some are successor states sitting on top of multiple prior polities, including polities that participated in capture, sale, taxation, or brokerage within slave trading systems. That complicates any clean claim that “the nation” as such is owed compensation. The state may be geographically connected to the history without being the clear legal victim of it.

A lot of rhetoric collapses three separate things into one:

historical injury to people,

moral claims by descendant communities,

and sovereign claims by modern states.

Those are not the same.

The strongest reparations claims are usually those that can identify a harmed people and a traceable structure of injury. The weakest claims are often those where a modern government tries to stand in for everyone and convert historical suffering into a generalized national entitlement.

Reparations properly belong to injured people groups or their descendants, while indemnity belongs to states. And a state does not get a valid indemnity claim just by invoking historical suffering unless it can show an actual sovereign basis for that claim.

Why didn’t he go to Brazil first? And why dishonor the Burial?

There is a growing confusion in public discourse between symbolic alignment and historical standing. That confusion becomes especially visible when foreign states or leaders enter American racial questions under the language of reparations, memory, and justice.

Ghana’s recent push at the United Nations, framed through the moral language of the transatlantic slave trade and historical repair, may appear emotionally resonant to many observers in the United States. Yet resonance is not the same thing as representation. A government speaking from the standpoint of a modern nation-state is not automatically speaking from the standpoint of Black Americans, and the two should not be casually merged.

This is where clarity matters.

The reparations question inside the United States is not merely a global discussion about slavery in the abstract. It is a specific political claim rooted in the formation of American society, the legal construction of hereditary bondage, the theft of labor, the destruction of kinship, the creation of caste, and the long afterlife of those processes in housing, education, policing, and capital access. That claim belongs first to the descendants of those made into a permanent underclass inside the United States. It is not invalidated by international concern, but neither is it transferred by it.

When a foreign president appears in New York to speak on reparations, many people instinctively interpret the moment as collective racial solidarity. That reading is too soft and too imprecise. States act through interests, moral theater, diplomatic positioning, and civilizational branding. They do not enter these conversations as neutral vessels of ancestral grief. They enter as states.

That distinction is essential because the history being invoked was not experienced uniformly, and the benefits, burdens, and consequences were not distributed equally across all melanated populations, all African polities, or all modern descendants. Some political formations were destroyed by the trade, some profited from it, and many contemporary governments now speak as if they inherit only the injury and none of the contradiction.

To say this is not to deny the horror of the slave trade. It is to insist that historical tragedy does not erase historical specificity. Black Americans are often asked to hear every appeal framed through racial abstraction as though it were automatically theirs. That habit produces a dangerous flattening. It encourages people to mistake visual kinship for political kinship and emotional symbolism for material claim. It also invites outsiders to occupy moral space inside an American lineage struggle without first accounting for the distinct history that produced it.

The deeper issue is that Black Americans are repeatedly trained to approach politics through sentiment before structure. If a gesture looks familiar, sounds ancestral, or invokes shared suffering, it is too often welcomed without the harder question of standing. Who is speaking. On whose authority. In pursuit of what. For whose descendants. Under what institutional framework. Those questions are not selfish. They are the minimum requirements of serious political thought.

Not every face at an international podium is fighting your battle. Not every invocation of slavery is an argument for your inheritance. Not every call for justice includes your particular dead, your particular dispossession, or your particular claim against the American state. A people lose themselves when they cannot distinguish between parallel suffering and their own unresolved ledger. The larger truth is simple. History creates overlap, but overlap is not ownership. Every group must know where its struggle begins, what its claim is made of, and when to recognize that a spectacle of solidarity is still not its fight.

Personally, I find it theatre that he came to America first and instead of go to Brazil which had absorbed 40% of the TAST.

It is odd on the surface.

If the stated frame is reparations for the transatlantic slave trade, then Brazil would seem like an obvious symbolic stop because Brazil received the largest share of enslaved Africans in the Atlantic system, commonly estimated at around 40 percent, far more than British North America or the later United States. So from a historical-volume standpoint, Brazil is central, not peripheral.

But diplomacy is rarely organized around historical proportion alone. New York gives him the United Nations, the American media sphere, and the symbolic pressure of speaking inside the orbit of the United States, which dominates global discourse. In other words, he may be targeting the loudest stage rather than the most historically proportionate destination. That is a political choice, not a historical one.

It also suggests that this is not purely about where the most captives were taken. It is about where moral language has the highest international yield. The United States remains the global theater of race talk, memory politics, and symbolic legitimacy. A speech in New York can reverberate outward in a way a first stop in Brazil may not, even if Brazil is more central to the actual arithmetic of the trade.

That said, my point is to a real inconsistency.

If one is serious about historical repair in a materially grounded sense, Brazil should not be secondary. Brazil is indispensable to the conversation. So when Brazil is not the first destination, it can make the whole thing feel more like diplomatic theater and message management than a rigorously historical campaign.

The deeper issue is that reparations language often follows visibility rather than structure. It goes where narrative power is strongest, not necessarily where the historical ledger is heaviest. That is why these gestures can feel misaligned. They are often calibrated for audience, prestige, and leverage before they are calibrated for historical order.

Ghana’s push for reparations is a HIJACK. Many will say: Modern Ghana didn’t participate in the slave trade but I respond if modern Ghana didn’t participate in slavery than how can they be owned reparations? 

Ghana doesn’t have a claim for compensation. 

If reparations are framed too broadly, they can sound morally inconsistent when local participation is ignored.

They are attempting to facilitate reparations for something they didn’t endure but in reality profited from. 

Insane: Ghana should be PAYING reparations if anything. 

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